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vinnie mirchandani

Paul appreciate your comments here and on my blog

While sw vendors should commend you for trying, the reality is their formal SEC and other filings clearly show only 10 to 12% of revenues in R&D - out of which only a fraction goes into new product development and 30, 40, 50% goes towards SG&A and most of the rest towards to impress investors. Unless they say they are misstating their financial statements it is there for everyone to see.

as I like to say if the Red Cross only contributed 5-10% towards actual charity, there would be all kinds of protests and Congressional and other government inquiries, but we have let sw vendors get away with it...

Paul Wallis

Vinnie,

Thanks for the comment back, but I think we’re in danger of looking too deeply into the spend and ROI within the software vendor rather than the spend and ROI within the customer.

Surely, it’s up to vendors how they spend their money, it’s up to us to ensure we get value for our money. It’s vendor shareholders, investors, auditors and governments that will hold the directors accountable - not us.

If I buy a fleet of vans and ask the manufacturer to maintain them, it’s up to them to maintain the vans so my business benefits and when the contract is up for renewal I’ll look to see if I can win even more benefit. That’s human nature.

But it’s not up to me to say how they can spend the money I give them. If the vans are saving me more than I’m paying out then it is bringing a positive result to my business.

I was once told that a good accountant would always save me more than he charged. I think the same about software - we shouldn’t look at the costs in isolation, but try to see and value them in the context of business contribution.

vinnie mirchandani

Paul, of course vendors spend as their boards and managements decide...that's part of the flaw in tech spend where even the BP's and GE's have less than 0.5% share of vendor revenues. But as groups of consumers they should be able to influence . The reality is only 5% is going into new product R&D. Imagine a company where a CIO was only delivering that little value. Business Execs would have him fired in a heart beat. Just because software vendors are more locked in does not mean we have to just sit back and accept the low payback for the dollar.

From a personal perspective, I have always been a buy versus build bigot. At WwC, at Gartner I built my career around packaged software. It is jarring that building is now in many cases better value than buying - why because packaged sw vendors cost so much to implement, take so much effort to upgrade, deliver little for the maintenance dollar. They have killed the "golden goose"

Paul Wallis

In advance of their Sapphire09 annual conference next month, SAP has modified their maintenance pricing program and will use KPIs to benchmark the new Enterprise Support offering.

Obviously, announcing this will save some blushes at the conference, but for me the interesting thing is how they are conducting the benchmarking.

The are using the KPIs to “measure and verify the ongoing value of SAP Enterprise Support” and “This effort will help customers by providing a transparent mechanism to link their support investment to the value delivered.”

The KPIs are aggregated into 4 categories :Business Continuity, Business Process Improvement, Protection of Investment and Total Cost of Operations.

I finished the blog above by saying:

"What I would like to see, however, is that criticism made from a business standpoint. And that can only take place when it is set fairly and squarely within a business context, don't you think?

We all love lower prices but sometimes we need to make the distinction between cost, value and worth."

What SAP is doing by using these KPIs is just that, placing the support within a business context and showing the value, thus showing the worth and justifying the cost of the increase.

vinnie mirchandani

Paul, as I asked in my blog what if the KPIs show that even the 17% - forget SAP's desire to increase to 22% - is over priced? It will be for a decent segment of the customer base.

In any large set of customers you have a bell curve. There are plenty of customers who are happy on 4.X - would just want bug fixes, regulatory updates and may be a few hours of support a year. On the other extreme there are some customers who want the new functionality in 7...charge the former single digit maitnenance, charge the latter 22%

My issue is a single rate which does not vary each year. Let it "float" with customer needs and SAP's delivery intensity...

Paul Wallis

Vinnie,

My two central points in these discussions have been:

1. SAP haven’t made a good job of defending themselves and
2. People are not putting maintenance costs in any business context.

Now SAP has come back with it’s SUGEN KPI offering and engaging the user community - which I’m pleased to see happening as it addresses both points.

Some companies with a very expensive upfront license cost may well find themselves on a lower percentage than a company with a smaller installation cost. Normalised out, I guess where they fit on the bell curve will depend on how well they can negotiate ... and rather than everyone knowing where they are with a fixed percentage it will be down to individual bargaining again.

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